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The Titans of Tone: A Comparative Guide to 211, 845, 813, and 811 Vacuum Tubes

The Titans of Tone: A Comparative Guide to 211, 845, 813, and 811 Vacuum Tubes

Sep 21, 2025 | 0 comments posted by Vincent Zhang

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The Titans of Tone: A Comparative Guide to 211, 845, 813, and 811 Vacuum Tubes

An Introduction to High-Power Transmitting Tubes
The Direct-Heated Triode Duo: 211 vs. 845
- Shared Heritage and Core Design
- The Sonic Divide: Detail vs. Authority
The Workhorses: 813 and 811A
- The 813: The Powerhouse Beam Tetrode
- The 811A: The High-Mu Specialist
Comparative Analysis and Visualization
- Core Electrical Specifications
- The Amplification Factor (Mu) Divide
- Application and Sonic Signature Matrix
Design, Safety, and Implementation
Conclusion: Choosing Your Titan of Tone

An Introduction to High-Power Transmitting Tubes

In the world of high-fidelity audio, few components command as much reverence and mystique as large power tubes. Originally engineered for the demanding world of radio frequency (RF) transmission, tubes like the 211, 845, 813, and 811A have found a second life in the hearts of audiophiles. These "transmitting tubes" are prized for their linearity, power handling, and the unique sonic character they impart on music. They represent a departure from common audio tubes like the EL34 or KT88, operating at dangerously high voltages and requiring specialized amplifier designs.

This article delves into these four iconic tubes, comparing their origins, technical specifications, and sonic signatures. We will explore the classic rivalry between the 211 and 845 triodes, and contrast them with the rugged, high-power 813 beam tetrode and the high-gain 811A triode.

A Word of Warning: Amplifiers using these tubes operate with lethal voltages, often exceeding 900-1250 volts. These are expert-only projects, and improper handling can cause instant death. Always follow manufacturer instructions and exercise extreme caution.

The Direct-Heated Triode Duo: 211 vs. 845

The 211 and 845 are arguably the most famous high-power triodes in modern audio. Amplifiers are often designed to accommodate both, allowing users to switch between them to tailor the sound. Their similar requirements but distinct sonic personalities make them the subject of endless debate.

Shared Heritage and Core Design

Both the 211 and 845 are large, convection-cooled, direct-heated triodes (DHTs) featuring a thoriated-tungsten filament that glows with a captivating bright light. They share a similar physical footprint and the same Jumbo 4-pin bayonet base. Their core purpose in audio is to power Single-Ended Triode (SET) or Push-Pull amplifiers, operating in Class A for maximum linearity.

Filament: Both run on a 10V filament, drawing around 3.2-3.25A. and .
Power Dissipation: Both are rated for an anode dissipation of 75 watts, enabling significant power output for a triode.
High Voltage Operation: They are designed to operate with very high plate voltages, typically in the range of 1000V to 1250V.

The Sonic Divide: Detail vs. Authority

Despite their similarities, the 211 and 845 offer distinctly different listening experiences, a difference rooted primarily in their amplification factor (mu).

The 211 tube, with a higher mu of 12, is celebrated for its exceptional treble performance. It is often described as rendering music with more detail, air, and transparency. However, this focus on the upper frequencies can sometimes be perceived as "leaner," "drier," or more analytical compared to the 845. A review in The Absolute Sound noted that with the 211, "the bass was a little less well-defined" and the presentation was "more forward and immediate."

In contrast, the 845 tube has a low mu of about 5.3. This tube is renowned for its powerful, authoritative sound, particularly in the lower frequencies. It delivers a ";punchier" and more "controlled bass" than many other triodes. Audiophiles often praise the 845 for its "voluptuous warmth and body," creating a rich, romantic, and weighty musical presentation. The same review from The Absolute Sound preferred the 845 for its ability to avoid the "analytical and dry" character of the 211.

In essence, the choice often comes down to a preference for the 211's ethereal detail and speed versus the 845's visceral weight and tonal richness.

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The Workhorses: 813 and 811A

Moving away from the classic audiophile duo, the 813 and 811A represent a more utilitarian heritage. Both were staples in the amateur radio world before being adopted by audio enthusiasts for their robustness and high performance-to-cost ratio.

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The 813: The Powerhouse Beam Tetrode

The 813 is not a triode but a beam power tetrode. Introduced by RCA in 1938, it became immensely popular with amateur radio operators after WWII for its ability to deliver high power economically. For audio use, it is typically "triode-strapped" (with its screen grid connected to the plate), which allows it to behave like a very high-power triode.

High Power: Its standout feature is a massive 125-watt plate dissipation rating, thanks to a large graphite plate. This allowed a pair of 813s to provide the legal limit of 1 kilowatt input for amateur radio.
Filament: It requires a 10V filament supply but draws a hefty 5A.
Sonic Signature: In audio amplifiers, the 813 is known for producing a powerful, deep, and controlled bass, often surpassing even the 845 in this regard. One review of an Audioromy 813 amplifier stated, "The bass was the best and most powerful I ever heard in my Nirvana System."
Design Challenge: Its higher amplification factor (when triode-strapped) makes it easier to drive than an 845, but its high plate impedance requires a carefully designed, often custom, output transformer.

The 811A: The High-Mu Specialist

The 811A is a power triode known for one defining characteristic: an extremely high amplification factor (mu) of 160. This made it ideal for its original purpose as a Class B modulator in transmitters, as it requires very little driving power.

High Gain: With a mu of 160, the 811A can be driven to full power with a much smaller input signal compared to the other tubes discussed. Its datasheet highlights its high efficiency and low driving power requirements.
Filament: It uses a 6.3V filament at 4A, a standard voltage in many tube circuits, but still a high current draw.
Plate Dissipation: It has a more modest plate dissipation of 65 watts (ICAS).
Sonic Profile & Use: The 811A shares the bright, thoriated-tungsten filament glow of the 211 and 845. It's often seen as a budget-friendly option for builders who want that "big tube" look. In modern audio, it's often used in single-ended Class A2 amplifiers, which operate with a positive grid voltage to achieve higher power output. Its sound is often described as "refreshing," particularly in the high frequencies.

Comparative Analysis and Visualization

To better understand the differences, let's visualize their key specifications and summarize their roles in audio design.

Core Electrical Specifications

The chart below compares the fundamental electrical requirements of the four tubes. Note the higher filament current demand of the 813 and the significantly larger plate dissipation capacity, which sets it apart as a power-handling champion.

Comparison of Filament Voltage/Current and Plate Dissipation.

The Amplification Factor (Mu) Divide

The amplification factor (μ) is a critical parameter that dictates how much voltage gain a tube can provide and heavily influences amplifier design and sound. The 813 is omitted from this comparison as it's a tetrode, and its mu in triode mode is not a standardized specification.

The chart below visualizes the immense difference in amplification factor (μ) between the three triodes, highlighting why they require such different circuit designs and yield distinct sonic results.

Amplification Factor (μ) comparison for the triodes. Note the logarithmic scale.

Detailed Comparison Matrix

Parameter	211	845	813	811A
Type	Direct-Heated Triode	Direct-Heated Triode	Beam Power Tetrode	Direct-Heated Triode
Amplification Factor (μ)	12	5.3	~40 (Triode-strapped, approx.)	160
Plate Dissipation (Max)	75W	75W	125W	65W (ICAS)
Filament Voltage	10V	10V	10V	6.3V
Filament Current	3.2A	3.25A	5A	4A
Typical Plate Voltage	1000V - 1250V	1000V - 1250V	~1000V (Triode-strapped)	1000V - 1500V
Typical Power Output (Single-Ended)	~20W	~20W	~25W	~10W (Class A2)
Sonic Signature	Analytical, airy, fast, detailed highs	Powerful, warm, rich, voluptuous body	Extremely powerful bass, robust, dynamic	Bright, refreshing highs, efficient
Best For	Systems needing transparency; vocals and acoustic music.	Systems needing weight and power; orchestral music.	High-power DIY projects; driving difficult speaker loads.	Class A2 designs, cost-effective builds requiring high gain.

Design, Safety, and Implementation

Building or maintaining an amplifier with these tubes is a serious undertaking. Beyond the lethal voltage risk, there are significant design challenges:

Power Supply: These tubes require massive, well-filtered power supplies capable of delivering high voltages (up to 1250V) and high filament currents (up to 5A for the 813).
Driver Stage: Low-mu tubes like the 845 require a very powerful driver stage to provide the large voltage swing needed to drive them to full output. Conversely, the high-mu 811A is much easier to drive.
Output Transformers (OPT): The OPT is critical. It must be able to handle the high DC current and have the correct primary impedance to match the tube. For example, an 813 amplifier may require a custom OPT with a 20k primary impedance, which is difficult to source and design correctly for wide frequency response.
Speaker Matching: These amplifiers, especially SET designs, have relatively high output impedance and modest power output (compared to solid-state). They flourish when paired with high-sensitivity speakers (typically >94dB) that present a stable impedance load. As noted in reviews, careful system matching is essential to realize their full potential.

Conclusion: Choosing Your Titan of Tone

The 211, 845, 813, and 811A each offer a unique journey into the world of high-power tube audio. There is no single "best" tube, only the one that best aligns with your sonic preferences, technical capabilities, and system requirements.

The 211 and 845 remain the quintessential choice for high-end audiophile amplifiers, offering a classic trade-off between ethereal detail and romantic authority.
The 813 stands as the DIY hero's choice, a rugged powerhouse capable of delivering immense power and thunderous bass for those willing to tackle its design challenges.
The 811A provides an accessible entry point into the world of bright-filament transmitting tubes, offering high gain and a lively sound in a more budget-friendly package.

Whichever path you choose, the journey with these glowing titans is a rewarding one, connecting the listener to a golden era of electronics while producing some of the most beautiful and compelling sound imaginable.

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